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		<title>By: Joel&#8217;s Scattered Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Warrior (11/3/47) - World of Warcraft</title>
		<link>http://jjtone.com/wp/archives/2007/12/21/warrior-11050/comment-page-1/#comment-26677</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel&#8217;s Scattered Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Warrior (11/3/47) - World of Warcraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think I&#8217;m going to head down this path for my warrior: Warrior (11/3/47) - World of Warcraft. Rochelle was right about not needing the improved shield bash, so I&#8217;m going to at least dip my toes into [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] think I&#8217;m going to head down this path for my warrior: Warrior (11/3/47) &#8211; World of Warcraft. Rochelle was right about not needing the improved shield bash, so I&#8217;m going to at least dip my toes into [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://jjtone.com/wp/archives/2007/12/21/warrior-11050/comment-page-1/#comment-26495</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I didn&#039;t expect a response - mostly I was making notes for myself.  I keep trying but I just can&#039;t spec with cruelty.  Due to bad childhood experiences playing Risk with my brother, I have a distrust of probabilities.  &quot;One-in-a-million chances crop up nine times out of ten.&quot;  I know the whole game is random numbers, but Cruelty crosses some kind of tolerance threshold for me.  

Here&#039;s the closest I can come.  http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LAMczZZbEtoI0zfIst  A rereading of Rochelle&#039;s post has convinced me that I should be able to get away without the improved shield bash.  I&#039;ve dropped Improved Heroic Strike and Improved Shield Bash to top off my One Hand Weapon Specialization and get 3 points in cruelty.  I&#039;m currently level 65 so it&#039;ll be a bit before I get there.  I&#039;m running 5 mans with a mage/hunter/warlock/holy paladin  group so I need lots of rage for my threat generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I didn&#8217;t expect a response &#8211; mostly I was making notes for myself.  I keep trying but I just can&#8217;t spec with cruelty.  Due to bad childhood experiences playing Risk with my brother, I have a distrust of probabilities.  &#8220;One-in-a-million chances crop up nine times out of ten.&#8221;  I know the whole game is random numbers, but Cruelty crosses some kind of tolerance threshold for me.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the closest I can come.  <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LAMczZZbEtoI0zfIst" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LAMczZZbEtoI0zfIst</a>  A rereading of Rochelle&#8217;s post has convinced me that I should be able to get away without the improved shield bash.  I&#8217;ve dropped Improved Heroic Strike and Improved Shield Bash to top off my One Hand Weapon Specialization and get 3 points in cruelty.  I&#8217;m currently level 65 so it&#8217;ll be a bit before I get there.  I&#8217;m running 5 mans with a mage/hunter/warlock/holy paladin  group so I need lots of rage for my threat generation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rochelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rochelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, I can&#039;t actually look at that talent build since I am reading this from work so I can only guess and go on what your comments are.  That said, &quot;(Almost) everyone swears by Cruelty&quot; because it really is that good.  If you are tanking, you #1 job is threat.  If the boss isn&#039;t hitting you, it doesn&#039;t matter how much HP or armor or avoidance you have.  One handed specialization is vital for the same reason.

Re: shield bash.  The reason improved shield bash is awful depends entirely on caster cooldowns.  Get a priest alt or a priest friend to mind control some mobs that are casters.  You will see that whenever a mob has spell it almost always has a longish cooldown.  The way interrupt mechanics work with NPCs is that once the spell starts casting, the cooldown triggers whether the spell finishes or not.  So if you interrupt a spell with a shield bash, you get a 6 second silence plus however long the cooldown on that spell is.  But if you try to preemptively silence with Imp SB, then the spell never got cast in the first place and never went on CD so that the instant the silence ends, the mob is going to start casting and now you can&#039;t interrupt it because your SB is on CD.  So really, trying to use Imp SB to silence a mob leaves you worse off in the long run.  If you want to silence, just get better at timing regular SB.

Like I said in the beginning of my article, my discussion of talents was really how they pertain to raid bosses.  But getting things like cruelty and 1-hand spec will help you wil everything.  Your spec might be good for whatever it is you are doing, but I gaurantee that with 5/5 Cruelty and 5/5 1-hand spec you will be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I can&#8217;t actually look at that talent build since I am reading this from work so I can only guess and go on what your comments are.  That said, &#8220;(Almost) everyone swears by Cruelty&#8221; because it really is that good.  If you are tanking, you #1 job is threat.  If the boss isn&#8217;t hitting you, it doesn&#8217;t matter how much HP or armor or avoidance you have.  One handed specialization is vital for the same reason.</p>
<p>Re: shield bash.  The reason improved shield bash is awful depends entirely on caster cooldowns.  Get a priest alt or a priest friend to mind control some mobs that are casters.  You will see that whenever a mob has spell it almost always has a longish cooldown.  The way interrupt mechanics work with NPCs is that once the spell starts casting, the cooldown triggers whether the spell finishes or not.  So if you interrupt a spell with a shield bash, you get a 6 second silence plus however long the cooldown on that spell is.  But if you try to preemptively silence with Imp SB, then the spell never got cast in the first place and never went on CD so that the instant the silence ends, the mob is going to start casting and now you can&#8217;t interrupt it because your SB is on CD.  So really, trying to use Imp SB to silence a mob leaves you worse off in the long run.  If you want to silence, just get better at timing regular SB.</p>
<p>Like I said in the beginning of my article, my discussion of talents was really how they pertain to raid bosses.  But getting things like cruelty and 1-hand spec will help you wil everything.  Your spec might be good for whatever it is you are doing, but I gaurantee that with 5/5 Cruelty and 5/5 1-hand spec you will be better.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel&#8217;s Scattered Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Warrior Frustration</title>
		<link>http://jjtone.com/wp/archives/2007/12/21/warrior-11050/comment-page-1/#comment-26410</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel&#8217;s Scattered Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Warrior Frustration</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a little too hard by the warlock so that it dies while running to him. As I&#8217;ve mentioned before, my warrior is much more flexible than my paladin in dealing with single targets - i.e. bosses. [...]</description>
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